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	<title>Comments on: Why Timothy Noah is wrong about &#8216;Why Bush was right to spare Libby&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 03:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree like father like son ... the comparison, though not directly on point in all particulars, deserves more emphasis. The Iran/Contra affair is particularly useful given the number of R. presidential hopefuls out there who are honoring Reagan. 

Ed Lazarus handles this issue, including the guidelines issue, well in a piece in Findlaw. 

It is useful to note too that with power comes responsibility. Why shouldn&#039;t such people have MORE to worry when they seriously threaten public safety given they are likely to be able to do so a lot more than us peons and willingly accepted the responsibility.

Anyway, Noah was a &#039;reluctant hawk&#039; during the lead-up to the war. In a fashion, Wilson hurt his credibility too. His continual enabling is not TOO surprising, but does help underline how we got into to mess in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree like father like son &#8230; the comparison, though not directly on point in all particulars, deserves more emphasis. The Iran/Contra affair is particularly useful given the number of R. presidential hopefuls out there who are honoring Reagan. </p>
<p>Ed Lazarus handles this issue, including the guidelines issue, well in a piece in Findlaw. </p>
<p>It is useful to note too that with power comes responsibility. Why shouldn&#8217;t such people have MORE to worry when they seriously threaten public safety given they are likely to be able to do so a lot more than us peons and willingly accepted the responsibility.</p>
<p>Anyway, Noah was a &#8216;reluctant hawk&#8217; during the lead-up to the war. In a fashion, Wilson hurt his credibility too. His continual enabling is not TOO surprising, but does help underline how we got into to mess in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: DallasNE</title>
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		<dc:creator>DallasNE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Noah wants to make comparisons he  should at least look for appropriate comparisons to make. Some claim Clinton vs Libby or Marc Rich vs Libby are appropriate. Nonsense. Weinberger vs Libby is, however. Both represented cases of high ranking government officials breaking the law in his official capacity, getting convicted and then pardoned by a President Bush in large measure to keep the crime contained, i.e., an obstruction of justice in itself. Why didn&#039;t Noah instead focus on this?

Clinton was a rotten husband and lied to keep his affairs a secret. There was no underlying crime. Clinton did enter into a plea agreement in the Paula Jones matter where he agreed to pay a fine and be disbarred from practicing law for a period of time in exchange for all charges being dropped. Libby was given an opportunity to cop a plea and he choose to wait for presidential action in lieu of a plea bargin. All he had to do was agree to tell the truth, not a tall order for a high ranking government official.

Who knows why Clinton pardoned Rich. I believe he has even said he now regrets that decision. Even there, however, Rich was no more of a scoundrel than some of those pardoned by Bush 41 and I have never heard Bush express regret over any of his pardons. Not the Pakistani cocaine dealer and not the Cuban terrorist believed responsible for bringing down a plane in which 78 people were killed.

So, once again, the &quot;Clinton did it&quot; claim fails the test of accuracy. The more accurate test is Weinberger vs Libby and that makes it Bush-41 vs Bush-43. Go with it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Noah wants to make comparisons he  should at least look for appropriate comparisons to make. Some claim Clinton vs Libby or Marc Rich vs Libby are appropriate. Nonsense. Weinberger vs Libby is, however. Both represented cases of high ranking government officials breaking the law in his official capacity, getting convicted and then pardoned by a President Bush in large measure to keep the crime contained, i.e., an obstruction of justice in itself. Why didn&#8217;t Noah instead focus on this?</p>
<p>Clinton was a rotten husband and lied to keep his affairs a secret. There was no underlying crime. Clinton did enter into a plea agreement in the Paula Jones matter where he agreed to pay a fine and be disbarred from practicing law for a period of time in exchange for all charges being dropped. Libby was given an opportunity to cop a plea and he choose to wait for presidential action in lieu of a plea bargin. All he had to do was agree to tell the truth, not a tall order for a high ranking government official.</p>
<p>Who knows why Clinton pardoned Rich. I believe he has even said he now regrets that decision. Even there, however, Rich was no more of a scoundrel than some of those pardoned by Bush 41 and I have never heard Bush express regret over any of his pardons. Not the Pakistani cocaine dealer and not the Cuban terrorist believed responsible for bringing down a plane in which 78 people were killed.</p>
<p>So, once again, the &#8220;Clinton did it&#8221; claim fails the test of accuracy. The more accurate test is Weinberger vs Libby and that makes it Bush-41 vs Bush-43. Go with it!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Brewer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Brewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tom,

Hush hush...it&#039;s on the QT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tom,</p>
<p>Hush hush&#8230;it&#8217;s on the QT.</p>
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		<title>By: Noodles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noodles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Cwinton wied about his peepee. It was the mostest worstest thing that ever happened in the whole history of the universe.

/noah

What a buffoon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Cwinton wied about his peepee. It was the mostest worstest thing that ever happened in the whole history of the universe.</p>
<p>/noah</p>
<p>What a buffoon.</p>
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		<title>By: psyberdawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>psyberdawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Maguire asserts without evidence: &lt;i&gt;&quot;Edelman had no idea (since Libby wasn’t saying anything) just what it was that Libby did not feel free to discuss.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Assuming your interpretation is correct, why &lt;i&gt;didn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; Team Libby call Edelman? Note that I&#039;m not denying there&#039;s ambiguity, only your contention that there&#039;s &lt;i&gt;no way&lt;/i&gt; Edelman could have known what it was that Libby didn&#039;t feel free to discuss. Edelman&#039;s testimony could have cleared this up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Maguire asserts without evidence: <i>&#8220;Edelman had no idea (since Libby wasn’t saying anything) just what it was that Libby did not feel free to discuss.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Assuming your interpretation is correct, why <i>didn&#8217;t</i> Team Libby call Edelman? Note that I&#8217;m not denying there&#8217;s ambiguity, only your contention that there&#8217;s <i>no way</i> Edelman could have known what it was that Libby didn&#8217;t feel free to discuss. Edelman&#8217;s testimony could have cleared this up.</p>
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