Comments on: If national health care sucks, why do people like it? http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1670 BTC News: News, politics, opinion and satire Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:52:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Weldon Berger http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1670/comment-page-1#comment-1120582 Weldon Berger Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:03:21 +0000 http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1670#comment-1120582 Hi, Matt. Thanks for your comment. There are many people whose incomes are too high to qualify for state or federal subsidies and can't afford private insurance, or whose income is sufficient but are excluded from coverage because of pre-existing conditions. In your situation, you qualified for Medicare or Medicaid as the dependent child of a mother whose only income was Social Security. Generalizing from one's own experience is often tempting but rarely accurate. Hi, Matt. Thanks for your comment. There are many people whose incomes are too high to qualify for state or federal subsidies and can’t afford private insurance, or whose income is sufficient but are excluded from coverage because of pre-existing conditions. In your situation, you qualified for Medicare or Medicaid as the dependent child of a mother whose only income was Social Security. Generalizing from one’s own experience is often tempting but rarely accurate.

]]> By: Matt Trias http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1670/comment-page-1#comment-1120505 Matt Trias Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:22:39 +0000 http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1670#comment-1120505 Uhm, I live in California. My mom raised me on Social Security, about 1,100 dollars a month. I once thought I might I may have had some brain problem. Just because I was having what I guess were tension headaches. My doctor arranged it, and a month later I got a CAT scan. It showed that there was nothing wrong. My mom never paid a dime. And yes, she had me on one of those health plans for people who can't afford to pay their own medical bills. Soma medical group. The only reason I don't have health care right now, is not because I don't have the money. I know there are programs out there. I just don't have the time to look into all the available options because I'm always working. I would suggest to many of you that don't have health care,that you just have not looked into all the available options. If you have the time, look into it. It's out there.If you can't afford private healthcare, then there are plenty of state run programs. Uhm, I live in California. My mom raised me on Social Security, about 1,100 dollars a month. I once thought I might I may have had some brain problem. Just because I was having what I guess were tension headaches. My doctor arranged it, and a month later I got a CAT scan. It showed that there was nothing wrong. My mom never paid a dime. And yes, she had me on one of those health plans for people who can’t afford to pay their own medical bills. Soma medical group.

The only reason I don’t have health care right now, is not because I don’t have the money. I know there are programs out there. I just don’t have the time to look into all the available options because I’m always working.

I would suggest to many of you that don’t have health care,that you just have not looked into all the available options. If you have the time, look into it. It’s out there.If you can’t afford private healthcare, then there are plenty of state run programs.

]]> By: Steve http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1670/comment-page-1#comment-1117335 Steve Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:25:36 +0000 http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1670#comment-1117335 My father has colon cancer and he lives and pays his taxes in Canada. He is wating for his first visit with a doctor at the Surrey cancer center in BC and it has been over a month since he was diagnosed. Meanwhile the cancer does not sleep. The Canadian system has become so broken down that it is unethical what they are doing to patients in critical conditions now. He was unable to get a preventative colonoscopy 2 years ago when he requested one since he was 67, because he had NO SYMPTOMS. In the United States anyone over 50 can get a colonoscopy if they have insurance or can pay. In Canada nobody can get one even IF they try to pay for it! As a result Canadians die from one of the preventable cancers that we fortunate Amercians try to prevent! You are right that the American system works better, Canadians know that very well. My father was diagnosed with colon cancer at a US hospital since he was in pain and didn't want to wait for weeks to see the Canadian doctor. He can't afford treatment in the US so he has to suffer (and most likely die)under the Canadian system. I would NEVER suggest that the government take over healh care. If you think the HMO's do a bad job just wait until the government takes over!!! When that happens you will have no choice about the care you receive! My father has colon cancer and he lives and pays his taxes in Canada. He is wating for his first visit with a doctor at the Surrey cancer center in BC and it has been over a month since he was diagnosed. Meanwhile the cancer does not sleep. The Canadian system has become so broken down that it is unethical what they are doing to patients in critical conditions now. He was unable to get a preventative colonoscopy 2 years ago when he requested one since he was 67, because he had NO SYMPTOMS. In the United States anyone over 50 can get a colonoscopy if they have insurance or can pay. In Canada nobody can get one even IF they try to pay for it! As a result Canadians die from one of the preventable cancers that we fortunate Amercians try to prevent! You are right that the American system works better, Canadians know that very well. My father was diagnosed with colon cancer at a US hospital since he was in pain and didn’t want to wait for weeks to see the Canadian doctor. He can’t afford treatment in the US so he has to suffer (and most likely die)under the Canadian system. I would NEVER suggest that the government take over healh care. If you think the HMO’s do a bad job just wait until the government takes over!!! When that happens you will have no choice about the care you receive!

]]> By: GDIAZ, M.D. http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1670/comment-page-1#comment-1109854 GDIAZ, M.D. Sat, 22 Sep 2007 03:37:23 +0000 http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1670#comment-1109854 HEALTH CARE SYSTEMS ARE BASED ON DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHIES, IE JOHN STUART MILLS;DECARETS ECT. CANADA HAS THE GREATEST GOOD FOR THE GREATEST NUMBER AND THEREFORE THE INDIVIDUAL TAKES A BACK SEAT AND SOME WILL NEED TO BE SACRIFICED FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF THE MAJORITY WHO ARE HEALTHY, IE IF YOU ARE 80 AND NEED DIALYSIS OR A TRANSPLANT OR ARE MENTALLY RETARDED IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN. USA IS BUILT ON THE PREMISE THAT THE INDIVIDUAL IS THE MOST IMPORTANT AND NOT THE GREATER MAJORITY. SO IF YOU ARE 80 YOU CAN GET DIALYSIS AND EVEN A TRANSPLANT AND ALL CARE AFFORDED TO THE YOUNGER AND HEALTHY.WHICH IS BETTER WHO KNOWS AND THE CANADIAN SYSTEM IS CHEAPER...BUT WE ALL KNOW WHICH ONE IS MORAL AND MORE HUMANE SO FU MICHAEL MOORE YOU FAT SLOB, PIECE OF SHI...MOVE TO CANADA OR UK OR CUBA YOU AHOLE!!! SE3E HOW MUCH MEDICAL CARE YOU GET THERE WHEN YOU GET DIABETES AND HEART DISEASE FROM ALL THE BIG MAC'S YOU BEEN SUCKING DOWN...SO STFU AHOLE!! HEALTH CARE SYSTEMS ARE BASED ON DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHIES, IE JOHN STUART MILLS;DECARETS ECT. CANADA HAS THE GREATEST GOOD FOR THE GREATEST NUMBER AND THEREFORE THE INDIVIDUAL TAKES A BACK SEAT AND SOME WILL NEED TO BE SACRIFICED FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF THE MAJORITY WHO ARE HEALTHY, IE IF YOU ARE 80 AND NEED DIALYSIS OR A TRANSPLANT OR ARE MENTALLY RETARDED IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN. USA IS BUILT ON THE PREMISE THAT THE INDIVIDUAL IS THE MOST IMPORTANT AND NOT THE GREATER MAJORITY. SO IF YOU ARE 80 YOU CAN GET DIALYSIS AND EVEN A TRANSPLANT AND ALL CARE AFFORDED TO THE YOUNGER AND HEALTHY.WHICH IS BETTER WHO KNOWS AND THE CANADIAN SYSTEM IS CHEAPER…BUT WE ALL KNOW WHICH ONE IS MORAL AND MORE HUMANE SO FU MICHAEL MOORE YOU FAT SLOB, PIECE OF SHI…MOVE TO CANADA OR UK OR CUBA YOU AHOLE!!! SE3E HOW MUCH MEDICAL CARE YOU GET THERE WHEN YOU GET DIABETES AND HEART DISEASE FROM ALL THE BIG MAC’S YOU BEEN SUCKING DOWN…SO STFU AHOLE!!

]]> By: Mary http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1670/comment-page-1#comment-1107302 Mary Sun, 09 Sep 2007 03:43:37 +0000 http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1670#comment-1107302 I'm sorry for your boyfriends 6 week appointment wait, but that is really a short period of time compared to a majority of my waits. For example, in Canada I've waited almost a year to see a specialist. Often only to receive the run around. I've also been denied expensive medications, was initially even denied oxygen (O2) despite qualifying for it. American friends donated their daughter's medical equipment to me, because I was unable to obtain the necessary care and equipment at least initially for a very long, long time - well still not able to receive the necessary care by a specialist in Canada. Oh, the fights, I've had to obtain medications, care, etc. It always amazes me that everyone - even healthier Canadians automatically make the assumption that "free" Canadian healthcare means everything is covered, that the medical care is excellent. In truth we do not have a free healthcare system in Canada. Our system is not truly universal, because coverage varies and sometimes significantly by province/territory. From my own horrible healthcare experiences, to other family members, to friends who have received poor healthcare - the Canadian system is not the great system its assumed to be. The reason that I'm coming to the US is that I cannot get care in Canada. I'm not being seen or followed at all by a respiratory specialist for a severe respiratory condition. In the US one may need to purchase insurance, but what you are all over looking is that you are able to access medical care - even if its necessary to pay out of pocket, and I'm unable to access specialised medical care in Canada. Not everyone receives care in Canada. Some of us simply fall through the cracks and do not receive the care we need, period. Whilst my visit to see a specialist in the US is going to be paid out of pocket. This visit allows me to see a specialist and to receive follow up care from a specialist that I will be pursuing. Yes, its expensive, and that’s hard, but its medical care, quality medical care, and that’s important. One can see that not everyone is receiving necessary healthcare in Canada despite paying very high taxes. I'd rather be receiving quality specialised care than going without any. This is indeed my current and long term situation in Canada. Some of my CF e-mail friends have stated that they are indeed paying what they are able to afford to a hospital as opposed to paying a large bill all at once. I'm very ill, on O2, and cough up blood at times due ti severe lung disease and cannot get the care and can say that the Canadian medical system has failed not only me, but countless others. Sure its helped some, but certainly not everyone. Your may think the American system is poor, but Canada’s in my opinion is certainly no better. Its seems to me that our system is many times worse. Thank you, Mary I’m sorry for your boyfriends 6 week appointment wait, but that is really a short period of time compared to a majority of my waits. For example, in Canada I’ve waited almost a year to see a specialist. Often only to receive the run around. I’ve also been denied expensive medications, was initially even denied oxygen (O2) despite qualifying for it. American friends donated their daughter’s medical equipment to me, because I was unable to obtain the necessary care and equipment at least initially for a very long, long time – well still not able to receive the necessary care by a specialist in Canada. Oh, the fights, I’ve had to obtain medications, care, etc. It always amazes me that everyone – even healthier Canadians automatically make the assumption that “free” Canadian healthcare means everything is covered, that the medical care is excellent. In truth we do not have a free healthcare system in Canada. Our system is not truly universal, because coverage varies and sometimes significantly by province/territory. From my own horrible healthcare experiences, to other family members, to friends who have received poor healthcare – the Canadian system is not the great system its assumed to be.

The reason that I’m coming to the US is that I cannot get care in Canada. I’m not being seen or followed at all by a respiratory specialist for a severe respiratory condition. In the US one may need to purchase insurance, but what you are all over looking is that you are able to access medical care – even if its necessary to pay out of pocket, and I’m unable to access specialised medical care in Canada. Not everyone receives care in Canada. Some of us simply fall through the cracks and do not receive the care we need, period. Whilst my visit to see a specialist in the US is going to be paid out of pocket. This visit allows me to see a specialist and to receive follow up care from a specialist that I will be pursuing. Yes, its expensive, and that’s hard, but its medical care, quality medical care, and that’s important. One can see that not everyone is receiving necessary healthcare in Canada despite paying very high taxes. I’d rather be receiving quality specialised care than going without any. This is indeed my current and long term situation in Canada.

Some of my CF e-mail friends have stated that they are indeed paying what they are able to afford to a hospital as opposed to paying a large bill all at once.

I’m very ill, on O2, and cough up blood at times due ti severe lung disease and cannot get the care and can say that the Canadian medical system has failed not only me, but countless others. Sure its helped some, but certainly not everyone. Your may think the American system is poor, but Canada’s in my opinion is certainly no better. Its seems to me that our system is many times worse.

Thank you,
Mary

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