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		<title>By: Weldon Berger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weldon Berger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 19:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Batocchio, thanks for the kind words, and for reminding me it&#039;s a good idea to stroke reporters who do well when they do well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Batocchio, thanks for the kind words, and for reminding me it&#8217;s a good idea to stroke reporters who do well when they do well.</p>
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		<title>By: Batocchio</title>
		<link>http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1491/comment-page-1#comment-201050</link>
		<dc:creator>Batocchio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 09:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Comment by Weldon Berger — 11/3/2006 @ 10:06 am&lt;/i&gt;

I definitely agree an admission of guilt after the fact can&#039;t compare to actually getting it right the first time, or at least the next time.  I do like to distinguish between hacks and earnest-if-flawed journalists, however.  I&#039;ve been fairly impressed with Peter Baker and Dan Balz at the Post, for example, and there are many genuinely great reporters out there (Charlie Savage, Murray Waas, Seymour Hersh, Dana Priest, many others), and you&#039;re dead on about Knight-Ridder/McClatchy.  

One of the huge hurdles I still see for the legitimate media is how they deal with lying.  The media’s reluctant to call someone a “liar,” or more generally to flatly state that a public figure’s assertion is false.  I suspect for “liar” it’s because it ascribes motive, and there may be a legal issue of libel as well.  Skilled journalists can still raise the issue when it’s pertinent, but it seems even good reporters often sort of dance around the issue (I’m thinking of Peter Baker covering Bush’s parade of straw men last month, or Dana Milbank coming to the very brink of calling Bush a liar a couple years ago - perhaps the same article you&#039;re thinking of).  The easiest way to raise the issue when relevant would be with a direct quotation from a political opponent, but most politicians and pundits seem to avoid the word as well (meanwhile, the blogosphere can and will be more frank, but some bloggers may be a bit too quick to throw out the term).  I’m sympathetic to the plight of straight journalists (versus op-ed writers, who have more leeway to sound off), but it seems the current principles of press conferences and talk shows allows liars to game the system, “win the half hour” as Dan Froomkin put it, and slip away relatively unscathed.  The fact-checking, when it even occurs, is often buried deep in the paper or overlooked (other than perhaps by bloggers).   

Anyway, thanks for a good post on an important subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Comment by Weldon Berger — 11/3/2006 @ 10:06 am</i></p>
<p>I definitely agree an admission of guilt after the fact can&#8217;t compare to actually getting it right the first time, or at least the next time.  I do like to distinguish between hacks and earnest-if-flawed journalists, however.  I&#8217;ve been fairly impressed with Peter Baker and Dan Balz at the Post, for example, and there are many genuinely great reporters out there (Charlie Savage, Murray Waas, Seymour Hersh, Dana Priest, many others), and you&#8217;re dead on about Knight-Ridder/McClatchy.  </p>
<p>One of the huge hurdles I still see for the legitimate media is how they deal with lying.  The media’s reluctant to call someone a “liar,” or more generally to flatly state that a public figure’s assertion is false.  I suspect for “liar” it’s because it ascribes motive, and there may be a legal issue of libel as well.  Skilled journalists can still raise the issue when it’s pertinent, but it seems even good reporters often sort of dance around the issue (I’m thinking of Peter Baker covering Bush’s parade of straw men last month, or Dana Milbank coming to the very brink of calling Bush a liar a couple years ago &#8211; perhaps the same article you&#8217;re thinking of).  The easiest way to raise the issue when relevant would be with a direct quotation from a political opponent, but most politicians and pundits seem to avoid the word as well (meanwhile, the blogosphere can and will be more frank, but some bloggers may be a bit too quick to throw out the term).  I’m sympathetic to the plight of straight journalists (versus op-ed writers, who have more leeway to sound off), but it seems the current principles of press conferences and talk shows allows liars to game the system, “win the half hour” as Dan Froomkin put it, and slip away relatively unscathed.  The fact-checking, when it even occurs, is often buried deep in the paper or overlooked (other than perhaps by bloggers).   </p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for a good post on an important subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Weldon Berger</title>
		<link>http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1491/comment-page-1#comment-200277</link>
		<dc:creator>Weldon Berger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, the fear of losing sources is real, but at least in Washington the sources to be lost are most often the least informative and most mendacious. When a &quot;senior administration official&quot; leaks something, you can generally assume he or she did so with the full knowledge and permission of his or her boss. The real scoops come from people down the line, as with whoever blew the whistle on the NSA surveillance program and innumerable other scandals large and small. Among the reasons I think the Knight Ridder guys were so successful at accurately reporting the runup to the Iraq invasion and the events following it is that their sources were smaller fish: they were working majors and colonels, one-star generals and mid-level bureaucrats at the Pentagon instead of three-star generals and Wolfowitz, Feith and Rumsfeld.

I remember a couple of years ago when reporters were complaining about pointlessly anonymous briefings from &quot;senior administration officials,&quot; where the official would brief reporters on something completely innocuous that in no way warranted anonymity. I don&#039;t remember now who it was, but one of the reporters tried to organize a boycott of that sort of briefing. His colleagues were in general agreement that that might be a good idea, so one day he stood up before one of those briefings began and walked out. And found himself standing in the hallway alone.

That&#039;s what&#039;s so irritating about the fear of losing sources. It&#039;s not as though administration officials are going to clam up: they want to get their message out. They get annoyed with individual reporters and maybe stop gossiping off the record to them for a while &#8212; and reporters &lt;i&gt;love&lt;/i&gt; gossip &#8212; but eventually officials have to start talking again because they want their spin on TV and in the Times or the Post and all of the chains. It isn&#039;t isolation from the news that scares reporters at the top of the food chain: it&#039;s social ostracism.

A good example is the recent flurry of &quot;senior administration officials&quot; leaking about possible changes in the administration&#039;s Iraq strategy. That was an election-related effort, and those officials had to talk with reporters in order to get that story in the papers and on TV. They weren&#039;t going to spite any of the big league reporters just because one or another had written something nasty about them or had been mean to Tony Snow in a briefing.

So what we have is, I think, a fundamental misunderstanding on the part of the press about 1) what their jobs are and 2) where the actual balance of power between them and the administration &#8212; any administration &#8212; lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, the fear of losing sources is real, but at least in Washington the sources to be lost are most often the least informative and most mendacious. When a &#8220;senior administration official&#8221; leaks something, you can generally assume he or she did so with the full knowledge and permission of his or her boss. The real scoops come from people down the line, as with whoever blew the whistle on the NSA surveillance program and innumerable other scandals large and small. Among the reasons I think the Knight Ridder guys were so successful at accurately reporting the runup to the Iraq invasion and the events following it is that their sources were smaller fish: they were working majors and colonels, one-star generals and mid-level bureaucrats at the Pentagon instead of three-star generals and Wolfowitz, Feith and Rumsfeld.</p>
<p>I remember a couple of years ago when reporters were complaining about pointlessly anonymous briefings from &#8220;senior administration officials,&#8221; where the official would brief reporters on something completely innocuous that in no way warranted anonymity. I don&#8217;t remember now who it was, but one of the reporters tried to organize a boycott of that sort of briefing. His colleagues were in general agreement that that might be a good idea, so one day he stood up before one of those briefings began and walked out. And found himself standing in the hallway alone.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what&#8217;s so irritating about the fear of losing sources. It&#8217;s not as though administration officials are going to clam up: they want to get their message out. They get annoyed with individual reporters and maybe stop gossiping off the record to them for a while &mdash; and reporters <i>love</i> gossip &mdash; but eventually officials have to start talking again because they want their spin on TV and in the Times or the Post and all of the chains. It isn&#8217;t isolation from the news that scares reporters at the top of the food chain: it&#8217;s social ostracism.</p>
<p>A good example is the recent flurry of &#8220;senior administration officials&#8221; leaking about possible changes in the administration&#8217;s Iraq strategy. That was an election-related effort, and those officials had to talk with reporters in order to get that story in the papers and on TV. They weren&#8217;t going to spite any of the big league reporters just because one or another had written something nasty about them or had been mean to Tony Snow in a briefing.</p>
<p>So what we have is, I think, a fundamental misunderstanding on the part of the press about 1) what their jobs are and 2) where the actual balance of power between them and the administration &mdash; any administration &mdash; lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not read Halperin&#039;s and Harris&#039; book, but I did hear Mark Halperin being interviewed on one of the conservative radio talk shows.  (I think that it was the Don Krogh&#039;s show on Salem Radio).  Halperin did sound very conservative.  Perhaps he was being agreeable with the host to help the book sales.  However, I suppose one factor in the mainstream media&#039;s poor coverage of politics and other matters is its heavy reliance on official sources.  I spoke with a retired Washington columnist about something during the Clinton Administration.  He said that many reporters and columnists have to be careful or they may lose their sources if they write something too controversial or contrary to the conventional wisdom.  I suppose that is the case all over the country, not just in Washington.  One of the attractions of reading some of the blogs is that many of the blog writers live and work outside of Washington, D.C.  They are not necessarily dependent on speaking with government officials, lobbyists, etc. to make a living.  So, there seems to be more diversion from the conventional wisdom one reads and hears in the mainstream press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not read Halperin&#8217;s and Harris&#8217; book, but I did hear Mark Halperin being interviewed on one of the conservative radio talk shows.  (I think that it was the Don Krogh&#8217;s show on Salem Radio).  Halperin did sound very conservative.  Perhaps he was being agreeable with the host to help the book sales.  However, I suppose one factor in the mainstream media&#8217;s poor coverage of politics and other matters is its heavy reliance on official sources.  I spoke with a retired Washington columnist about something during the Clinton Administration.  He said that many reporters and columnists have to be careful or they may lose their sources if they write something too controversial or contrary to the conventional wisdom.  I suppose that is the case all over the country, not just in Washington.  One of the attractions of reading some of the blogs is that many of the blog writers live and work outside of Washington, D.C.  They are not necessarily dependent on speaking with government officials, lobbyists, etc. to make a living.  So, there seems to be more diversion from the conventional wisdom one reads and hears in the mainstream press.</p>
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		<title>By: Weldon Berger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weldon Berger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, wystler. The problem yesterday was with a script my spam killer was running. Today it just seems to be the Kos-related traffic (plus Crooks and Liars, plus Altercation), &lt;b&gt;all of which I am very pleased to get, mind you, not complaining a bit&lt;/b&gt;, since nothing unusual was showing up in the server logs. I&#039;m just going to have to bite the bullet and go for a stronger server. I&#039;m also moving from Hawaii to the mainland, so it comes at an awkward moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, wystler. The problem yesterday was with a script my spam killer was running. Today it just seems to be the Kos-related traffic (plus Crooks and Liars, plus Altercation), <b>all of which I am very pleased to get, mind you, not complaining a bit</b>, since nothing unusual was showing up in the server logs. I&#8217;m just going to have to bite the bullet and go for a stronger server. I&#8217;m also moving from Hawaii to the mainland, so it comes at an awkward moment.</p>
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