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	<title>Comments on: Hitchens on Cole, Cobban on Hitchens, me on Slate</title>
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		<title>By: CMAR II</title>
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		<dc:creator>CMAR II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 15:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonic,

I did read it, did you? The Iranian commenting on the Cole&#039;s translation called it a distortion of the meaning just as did Hitchens (&quot;He distorts, you decide&quot;). 

I suppose if Cole translated the English term &quot;I&#039;m in a real pickle&quot; to mean &quot;I am currently wearing a dilled cucumber for a suit&quot; you would call that an &quot;accurate&quot; translation as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonic,</p>
<p>I did read it, did you? The Iranian commenting on the Cole&#8217;s translation called it a distortion of the meaning just as did Hitchens (&#8220;He distorts, you decide&#8221;). </p>
<p>I suppose if Cole translated the English term &#8220;I&#8217;m in a real pickle&#8221; to mean &#8220;I am currently wearing a dilled cucumber for a suit&#8221; you would call that an &#8220;accurate&#8221; translation as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 05:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On your winds of change link, did you try reading it?

&quot;I am not a translatior, but I can tell you that here is a clear note in that sentence that Israel must be made to wanish from the face of time. 
Maybe this is not a theat, as it was not directed to Israel, but to his followers, but it clearly is an decleration of intent. The intent is to make Israel cease to exist.

The word map is not litterarly in there&quot;

So Cole was right it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On your winds of change link, did you try reading it?</p>
<p>&#8220;I am not a translatior, but I can tell you that here is a clear note in that sentence that Israel must be made to wanish from the face of time.<br />
Maybe this is not a theat, as it was not directed to Israel, but to his followers, but it clearly is an decleration of intent. The intent is to make Israel cease to exist.</p>
<p>The word map is not litterarly in there&#8221;</p>
<p>So Cole was right it seems.</p>
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		<title>By: Xenophile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xenophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 21:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, wanted to ask Slate what impression they expected to make by hosting this sort of character assassination, and why in the world they were keeping Hitchens around, and that&#039;s when I also discovered that there was no way to contact the editors.  The best I could figure out was to send my email via the Feedback link, which leads to what appears to be a complaint form designed for problems with the site tech.  That was not what I really wanted, of course, but not being able to do what I wanted to do -- send a good old-fashioned Letter to the Editor -- I sent my &quot;feedback&quot; email anyway.  I got back a form reply within a couple of hours promising that my note would be forwarded to the &quot;appropriate&quot; staff member for investigation and response.  I don&#039;t expect any further response, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, wanted to ask Slate what impression they expected to make by hosting this sort of character assassination, and why in the world they were keeping Hitchens around, and that&#8217;s when I also discovered that there was no way to contact the editors.  The best I could figure out was to send my email via the Feedback link, which leads to what appears to be a complaint form designed for problems with the site tech.  That was not what I really wanted, of course, but not being able to do what I wanted to do &#8212; send a good old-fashioned Letter to the Editor &#8212; I sent my &#8220;feedback&#8221; email anyway.  I got back a form reply within a couple of hours promising that my note would be forwarded to the &#8220;appropriate&#8221; staff member for investigation and response.  I don&#8217;t expect any further response, however.</p>
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		<title>By: CMAR II</title>
		<link>http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1316/comment-page-1#comment-23797</link>
		<dc:creator>CMAR II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 20:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to whether Hitchens contacted anyone who speaks Farsi, he was apparently was using the translation of the NYT bureau Nazila Fathi for whom Farsi is a first language. He also analyzed the context of the statement and &lt;i&gt;notes that Ahmedinejad has NOT complained a bit&lt;/i&gt; regarding the conventional WORLD-WIDE translation that he would &quot;wipe Israel off the map.&quot;

Finally, I direct you to &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/008563.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; analysis by another native Farsi speaker who calls Cole&#039;s exegesis of Ahmedinejad&#039;s speech &lt;b&gt;&quot;insane and ignorant&quot;.&lt;/b&gt;

As for the rest of it, rather than a point by point rebuttal, I direct you &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jarrarsupariver.blogspot.com/2006/05/slugfest-hitchens-v-cole.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to whether Hitchens contacted anyone who speaks Farsi, he was apparently was using the translation of the NYT bureau Nazila Fathi for whom Farsi is a first language. He also analyzed the context of the statement and <i>notes that Ahmedinejad has NOT complained a bit</i> regarding the conventional WORLD-WIDE translation that he would &#8220;wipe Israel off the map.&#8221;</p>
<p>Finally, I direct you to <b><a href="http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/008563.php" rel="nofollow">this</a></b> analysis by another native Farsi speaker who calls Cole&#8217;s exegesis of Ahmedinejad&#8217;s speech <b>&#8220;insane and ignorant&#8221;.</b></p>
<p>As for the rest of it, rather than a point by point rebuttal, I direct you <b><a href="http://jarrarsupariver.blogspot.com/2006/05/slugfest-hitchens-v-cole.html" rel="nofollow">here</a></b>.</p>
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		<title>By: PubliusToo</title>
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		<dc:creator>PubliusToo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 17:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, I am minority of one regarding the importance of these personal “he said-she said” dramas.  I will admit that you have made valid (perhaps important) points both about fighting fire with fire (so to speak).  Still, I can easily get bored with the arguments &lt;i&gt;ad hominem&lt;/i&gt;.  (I’m trying to be polite here.)  I will also readily admit that my reply to weldon’s posting was glib.  In that regard, I especially appreciated the response from “nobody” at no. 4 above; that was rather amusing and probably well deserved.  In response, I will state (somewhat sadly) that apparently I did not have anything better to do that day (though the golf course was open and the weather was beautiful).  In my defense, however, my reply did not exactly take much time or effort, so I don’t feel like I wasted &lt;i&gt;too much&lt;/i&gt; time by so replying.  Not that anybody really cares, anyway.

Finally, weldon, I knew what you would say about the email issue before I posted my message.  Still, I think it’s best to expect that even your most private conversations are likely to be revealed.  That’s a great way to help you to temper your remarks or, better yet, to be more circumspect.  I think that if I lived in a country that did not respect individual freedom to speak and write, I would be much more cautious about what I say even in private because sooner or later someone who hears what you say or reads what you write will blurt it out.  Anyway, that’s my story and I’m still sticking to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, I am minority of one regarding the importance of these personal “he said-she said” dramas.  I will admit that you have made valid (perhaps important) points both about fighting fire with fire (so to speak).  Still, I can easily get bored with the arguments <i>ad hominem</i>.  (I’m trying to be polite here.)  I will also readily admit that my reply to weldon’s posting was glib.  In that regard, I especially appreciated the response from “nobody” at no. 4 above; that was rather amusing and probably well deserved.  In response, I will state (somewhat sadly) that apparently I did not have anything better to do that day (though the golf course was open and the weather was beautiful).  In my defense, however, my reply did not exactly take much time or effort, so I don’t feel like I wasted <i>too much</i> time by so replying.  Not that anybody really cares, anyway.</p>
<p>Finally, weldon, I knew what you would say about the email issue before I posted my message.  Still, I think it’s best to expect that even your most private conversations are likely to be revealed.  That’s a great way to help you to temper your remarks or, better yet, to be more circumspect.  I think that if I lived in a country that did not respect individual freedom to speak and write, I would be much more cautious about what I say even in private because sooner or later someone who hears what you say or reads what you write will blurt it out.  Anyway, that’s my story and I’m still sticking to it.</p>
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