Comments on: War, poverty, torture and state-owned wombs: the Republican disease http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1216 BTC News: News, politics, opinion and satire Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:52:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Peggy Loonan http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1216/comment-page-1#comment-16162 Peggy Loonan Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:29:13 +0000 http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/?p=1216#comment-16162 In addition: The anti-abortion obsession ignores in the vein of "see no..hear no..speak no..." the real world consequences of their claim that abortion is murder and the real world consequence of criminalized abortion again. Life and Liberty for Women tried to make these points very clear for Gov. Rounds in SD. He wasn't listening but it is a message that the American public will get if they ever hear it. http://www.lifeandlibertyforwomen.org/issues/issues_letter_to_south_dakota_governor.html Abortion opponents have really over-reached and handed the abortion rights movement the first real opportunity to turn public opinion around and put legislators on the hot seat - now if they will only capitalize on it as Life and Liberty for Women has been for years here locally in Fort Collins, Colorado. http://www.lifeandlibertyforwomen.org/our_educational_boards.html http://www.lifeandlibertyforwomen.org/abortion_pictorial.html Just some food for thought. Peggy Loonan, founder and executive director, Life and Liberty for Women peggy@lifeandlibertyforwomen.org In addition: The anti-abortion obsession ignores in the vein of “see no..hear no..speak no…” the real world consequences of their claim that abortion is murder and the real world consequence of criminalized abortion again.

Life and Liberty for Women tried to make these points very clear for Gov. Rounds in SD. He wasn’t listening but it is a message that the American public will get if they ever hear it.
http://www.lifeandlibertyforwomen.org/issues/issues_letter_to_south_dakota_governor.html

Abortion opponents have really over-reached and handed the abortion rights movement the first real opportunity to turn public opinion around and put legislators on the hot seat – now if they will only capitalize on it as Life and Liberty for Women has been for years here locally in Fort Collins, Colorado.
http://www.lifeandlibertyforwomen.org/our_educational_boards.html

http://www.lifeandlibertyforwomen.org/abortion_pictorial.html

Just some food for thought. Peggy Loonan, founder and executive director, Life and Liberty for Women
peggy@lifeandlibertyforwomen.org

]]> By: weldon berger http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1216/comment-page-1#comment-15925 weldon berger Tue, 07 Mar 2006 08:59:19 +0000 http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/?p=1216#comment-15925 Gary, yeah, I saw that. I expect the typical response would be to channel Scott McClellan: "We don't do hypotheticals." Gary, yeah, I saw that. I expect the typical response would be to channel Scott McClellan: “We don’t do hypotheticals.”

]]> By: gary1 http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1216/comment-page-1#comment-15881 gary1 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 05:06:46 +0000 http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/?p=1216#comment-15881 Seen Jane Hamsher's hypothetical to make heads of forced-chilbirth crowd explode? You're in a clinic when a fire breaks out. You have time to save one live, healthy 2-yr-old child that's present, or 5 frozen blastocysts. Which is it, "pro-lifer"? Seen Jane Hamsher’s hypothetical to make heads of forced-chilbirth crowd explode?

You’re in a clinic when a fire breaks out. You have time to save one live, healthy 2-yr-old child that’s present, or 5 frozen blastocysts. Which is it, “pro-lifer”?

]]> By: weldon berger http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1216/comment-page-1#comment-15856 weldon berger Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:32:13 +0000 http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/?p=1216#comment-15856 HJ, it should be pretty obvious that I don't think there's a debate to be had. Restricting or banning abortion is medievial and leads to bad outcomes. Torture is barbaric. Invading another country and then justifying it on the premise that it's better to turn those people into terrorist fodder than to risk our own soil is, even were the logic not flawed, moral idiocy. I'm really not prepared to cede ground on any of those points, and I think a great deal of ground has been lost by politely arguing them rather than simply pointing out to proponents of the practices that they're behaving very much like the fundamentalist crazies we're supposedly at war with. HJ, it should be pretty obvious that I don’t think there’s a debate to be had. Restricting or banning abortion is medievial and leads to bad outcomes. Torture is barbaric. Invading another country and then justifying it on the premise that it’s better to turn those people into terrorist fodder than to risk our own soil is, even were the logic not flawed, moral idiocy. I’m really not prepared to cede ground on any of those points, and I think a great deal of ground has been lost by politely arguing them rather than simply pointing out to proponents of the practices that they’re behaving very much like the fundamentalist crazies we’re supposedly at war with.

]]> By: HJ http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1216/comment-page-1#comment-15829 HJ Tue, 07 Mar 2006 00:04:59 +0000 http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/?p=1216#comment-15829 Maybe if this "article" was written as such, it would have more validity and weight in the debate of these issues. However, I doubt that using highly provacative language and calling speculation "fact" will really give readers a reason to listen. Telling your own version of the truth doesn't do anybody any good. Maybe if this “article” was written as such, it would have more validity and weight in the debate of these issues. However, I doubt that using highly provacative language and calling speculation “fact” will really give readers a reason to listen. Telling your own version of the truth doesn’t do anybody any good.

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