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	<title>Comments on: Curt Weldon and the New York Times: made for each other</title>
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		<title>By: trax</title>
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		<dc:creator>trax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like someone has had too many Sandy Bergers with a supersize side of French lies!

Maybe Berger was working for Bush? LMAO

The liberal psychosis has now gone gangrenous.

This 9/11 commission is turning out to be as successful as the Waco cover-up was!  Don&#039;t worry, your yellowbelly groundhog day will end in a few years when Bush is gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like someone has had too many Sandy Bergers with a supersize side of French lies!</p>
<p>Maybe Berger was working for Bush? LMAO</p>
<p>The liberal psychosis has now gone gangrenous.</p>
<p>This 9/11 commission is turning out to be as successful as the Waco cover-up was!  Don&#8217;t worry, your yellowbelly groundhog day will end in a few years when Bush is gone.</p>
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		<title>By: americaprd</title>
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		<dc:creator>americaprd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why have conervative commentators bacnktracked?  Because of this quote form Shaffer in Government Security News:

“I personally talked with [Philip] Zelikow [executive director of the 9/11 Commission] about this,” recalled the intelligence officer. “For whatever bizarre reasons, he didn’t pass on the information.”

The State Department, where Zelikow now works as a counselor to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, said he was traveling and unavailable for comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why have conervative commentators bacnktracked?  Because of this quote form Shaffer in Government Security News:</p>
<p>“I personally talked with [Philip] Zelikow [executive director of the 9/11 Commission] about this,” recalled the intelligence officer. “For whatever bizarre reasons, he didn’t pass on the information.”</p>
<p>The State Department, where Zelikow now works as a counselor to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, said he was traveling and unavailable for comment.</p>
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		<title>By: weldon berger</title>
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		<dc:creator>weldon berger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A-prd: it&#039;s looking a lot better. He certainly shook some branches; we&#039;ll see what falls out. There was a curious about-face among some pretty well-connected right-wing commentators today who were pushing the story hard during the past week. Lots of interesting scurrying around. I&#039;m keeping the chart, though, at least for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A-prd: it&#8217;s looking a lot better. He certainly shook some branches; we&#8217;ll see what falls out. There was a curious about-face among some pretty well-connected right-wing commentators today who were pushing the story hard during the past week. Lots of interesting scurrying around. I&#8217;m keeping the chart, though, at least for now.</p>
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		<title>By: americaprd</title>
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		<dc:creator>americaprd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 02:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>weldon berger:

In case you missed it, one person form Able Danger has gone public, a liason to DIA.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/17/politics/17intel.html
Excerpt:

&quot;WASHINGTON, Aug. 16 - A military intelligence team repeatedly contacted the F.B.I. in 2000 to warn about the existence of an American-based terrorist cell that included the ringleader of the Sept. 11 attacks, according to a veteran Army intelligence officer who said he had now decided to risk his career by discussing the information publicly. 

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The officer, Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, said military lawyers later blocked the team from sharing any of its information with the bureau.

Colonel Shaffer said in an interview on Monday night that the small, highly classified intelligence program, known as Able Danger, had identified the terrorist ringleader, Mohamed Atta, and three other future hijackers by name by mid-2000, and tried to arrange a meeting that summer with agents of the Washington field office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation to share its information. 

But he said military lawyers forced members of the intelligence program to cancel three scheduled meetings with the F.B.I. at the last minute, which left the bureau without information that Colonel Shaffer said might have led to Mr. Atta and the other terrorists while the Sept. 11 attacks were still being planned.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>weldon berger:</p>
<p>In case you missed it, one person form Able Danger has gone public, a liason to DIA.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/17/politics/17intel.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/17/politics/17intel.html</a><br />
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<p>&#8220;WASHINGTON, Aug. 16 &#8211; A military intelligence team repeatedly contacted the F.B.I. in 2000 to warn about the existence of an American-based terrorist cell that included the ringleader of the Sept. 11 attacks, according to a veteran Army intelligence officer who said he had now decided to risk his career by discussing the information publicly. </p>
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<p>The officer, Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, said military lawyers later blocked the team from sharing any of its information with the bureau.</p>
<p>Colonel Shaffer said in an interview on Monday night that the small, highly classified intelligence program, known as Able Danger, had identified the terrorist ringleader, Mohamed Atta, and three other future hijackers by name by mid-2000, and tried to arrange a meeting that summer with agents of the Washington field office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation to share its information. </p>
<p>But he said military lawyers forced members of the intelligence program to cancel three scheduled meetings with the F.B.I. at the last minute, which left the bureau without information that Colonel Shaffer said might have led to Mr. Atta and the other terrorists while the Sept. 11 attacks were still being planned.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: weldon berger</title>
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		<dc:creator>weldon berger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 05:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark&#039;s piece will be up shortly.

I don&#039;t doubt Weldon has any number of charts, but the three in question appear to be different versions of the 911-related one. And the problem is much less that Atta wasn&#039;t on one of them than that Weldon now says he doesn&#039;t remember whether the ringleader of the 911 hijackings was on the original one, which was in his possession on 911. That&#039;s just unimaginable.

The visa photos are problematic as well because of the timetable Weldon and his sources have provided. If you don&#039;t use a visa within a few months of the date issued, you have to get a new one. At least two of the hijackers didn&#039;t get here until a year or so after the team said they were prevented from acting on the information, so those two would have had to get another visa. It&#039;s possible they did but I don&#039;t recall anyone suggesting that happened.

So there really are a lot of holes. And I think Weldon&#039;s inability to put a coherent story together is distracting from the issue of turf wars and the efficacy of data mining rather than highlighting them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark&#8217;s piece will be up shortly.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t doubt Weldon has any number of charts, but the three in question appear to be different versions of the 911-related one. And the problem is much less that Atta wasn&#8217;t on one of them than that Weldon now says he doesn&#8217;t remember whether the ringleader of the 911 hijackings was on the original one, which was in his possession on 911. That&#8217;s just unimaginable.</p>
<p>The visa photos are problematic as well because of the timetable Weldon and his sources have provided. If you don&#8217;t use a visa within a few months of the date issued, you have to get a new one. At least two of the hijackers didn&#8217;t get here until a year or so after the team said they were prevented from acting on the information, so those two would have had to get another visa. It&#8217;s possible they did but I don&#8217;t recall anyone suggesting that happened.</p>
<p>So there really are a lot of holes. And I think Weldon&#8217;s inability to put a coherent story together is distracting from the issue of turf wars and the efficacy of data mining rather than highlighting them.</p>
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